Functional Geekery Episode 126 – Andy Hunt and Dave Thomas 544f5y

In this episode I talk with Andy Hunt and Dave Thomas. We talk about their 20th Anniversary Edition of The Pragmatic Programmer, what prompted a 20th Anniversary Edition, what has changed and what has stayed the same in the 20 years since, where they see things going based off what they have seen, and much, much more. Our Guests, Andy Hunt and Dave Thomas @PragmaticAndy on Twitter https://toolshed.com/ Andy’s Now Page @pragdave on Twitter https://pragdave.me/ Conference Announcements Lambda Days 2020 just announced their CFP! Go to their website and submit a talk for a chance to present your work on their stage in February. https://www.lambdadays.org/lambdadays2020#call-for-papers If you have a conference related to functional programming, me, and I will be happy to announce it. Announcements Some of you have asked how you can Functional Geekery, in that vein, Functional Geekery now has a Patreon Page. If that is one of the ways you would like to show your , you can find out more at https://www.patreon.com/fngeekery. Topics [@1:14] Welcome Andy and Dave The Pragmatic Programmer The Pragmatic Programmer 20th Anniversary Edition What prompted a 20th Anniversary Update/Re-write Han Shoots First DRY – Don’t Repeat Yourself Updating the level between the last two sections of the book Book-ending the 20th Anniversary edition with call to responsibility Pragmatic Bookshelf Addison Wesley / Pearson Being rooted in agility Disconnect between source and primary artifact Harry Potter Applying principles from software to working in publishing Going with Easiest Way vs Investing in Conscience The Pragmatic Programmer standing the test of time “Brush your teeth kind of advise” Common Sense and deliberately trying new things “Don’t really trust yourself either” “Take small steps and try stuff Finding “Trust but ” origin Following the Seed of Curiosity The 5 Whys Asking “What are the appropriate practices?” instead of “What are the best practices?” What trends look to be more sticky going forward Picking languages to use and reference in the book How to choose a language to learn “If you don’t understand it, if it confuses you, if it makes you uncomfortable, then that’s the language you should learn.” Haskell “Every language has its little unique additions to the world” “You should always have at least three different ways of implementing it try to get some clarity” What things Dave and Andy thought should have been paid more attention to Unit Testing – Don’t write your own framework today Blackboard Systems How Functional Programming plays in with what they have experienced over the last 20 years “Making State Transformation Explicit” Logo/Turtle Graphics “There is no one right way of doing things” Ruby “It would be a big, big mistake for any of your listeners to consider themselves a Functional Programmer” “Your Role is Problem Solver” “How could this code be used against me, against the company, against the ” Responsibility for moral implications and how the Nuremberg defense isn’t and excuse Reducing your dependencies libraries and frameworks The Pragmatic Programmer 20th Anniversary Edition Beta currently available Hardcover in fall Southern Methodist University As always, a giant Thank You goes to David Belcher for the logo design. 6q1c33